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Help - Laying Laminate Flooring without "beading"   
Hi,
    I am planning to lay a new laminate floor in my living room shortly. I 
have just been told by SWMBO said she does not want to have any "edge 
beading" which is used to hide the expansion gaps.

  What are my options in laying the floor (with skirting boards already in 
place) which leave sufficient expansion gaps and also hide the edges of the 
floor. I presume that I would need to cut a rebate into the fitted skirting 
board... ??  If so what power tool would I need to hire ??

Thanks in advance

Steve




steveharvey [at] dsl [dot] pipex [dot] com
Date:Mon, 19 Sep 2005 22:48:00 +0100   Author:  

Re: Help - Laying Laminate Flooring without "beading"   
Steve Harvey wrote:

> Hi,
>     I am planning to lay a new laminate floor in my living room
> shortly. I have just been told by SWMBO said she does not want to
> have any "edge beading" which is used to hide the expansion gaps.
>
>   What are my options in laying the floor (with skirting boards
> already in place) which leave sufficient expansion gaps and also hide
> the edges of the floor. I presume that I would need to cut a rebate
> into the fitted skirting board... ??  If so what power tool would I
> need to hire ??
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Steve
>
>
>


It would be quicker and cheaper to replace the skirting. :-)
Date:Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:53:07 GMT   Author:  

Re: Help - Laying Laminate Flooring without "beading"   
Steve Harvey wrote:

> Hi,
>    I am planning to lay a new laminate floor in my living room
> shortly. I have just been told by SWMBO said she does not want to
> have any "edge beading" which is used to hide the expansion gaps.


Hi Steve

Only two options really - edge beading or remove & replace the skirting. 
Cutting a rebate would be a terrible job, almost impossible to do IMO.

Pre primed MDF skirting is fairly cheap & easy to use.



Dave
Date:Mon, 19 Sep 2005 22:09:47 GMT   Author:  

Re: Help - Laying Laminate Flooring without "beading"   
david lang wrote:

> Steve Harvey wrote:
>> Hi,
>>    I am planning to lay a new laminate floor in my living room
>> shortly. I have just been told by SWMBO said she does not want to
>> have any "edge beading" which is used to hide the expansion gaps.
>
> Hi Steve
>
> Only two options really - edge beading or remove & replace the
> skirting. Cutting a rebate would be a terrible job, almost impossible
> to do IMO.
>
> Pre primed MDF skirting is fairly cheap & easy to use.
>
>
>
> Dave


 A biscuit jointer would take care of the rebating, however how far off the
floor (for the rebate) it would go is another matter?
Date:Mon, 19 Sep 2005 22:17:14 GMT   Author:  

Re: Help - Laying Laminate Flooring without "beading"   
"Steve Harvey"  wrote:


>Hi,
>    I am planning to lay a new laminate floor in my living room shortly. I 
>have just been told by SWMBO said she does not want to have any "edge 
>beading" which is used to hide the expansion gaps.
>
>  What are my options in laying the floor (with skirting boards already in 
>place) which leave sufficient expansion gaps and also hide the edges of the 
>floor. I presume that I would need to cut a rebate into the fitted skirting 
>board... ??  If so what power tool would I need to hire ??


Build a new patio with a convenient concrete lined cavity, trade in
SWMBO for one that isn't so fussy.

Alternatively have wall to wall fitted carpets instead - laminate
floors went out of fashion a couple of years ago   ;-)


--
Date:Mon, 19 Sep 2005 23:37:52 +0100   Author:  

Re: Help - Laying Laminate Flooring without "beading"   
Steve Harvey wrote:


>   What are my options in laying the floor (with skirting boards already in 
> place) which leave sufficient expansion gaps and also hide the edges of the 
> floor. I presume that I would need to cut a rebate into the fitted skirting 
> board... ??  If so what power tool would I need to hire ??


You can get cork strips that can be inserted in the gap to disguise it. 
Only really works on lightish colourd floors though.

In a small room you can also get away with a much smaller expansion gap 
than the 1cm normally recommended. This gap can them be sealed with 
mastic or something elxe flexible.

-- 
Cheers,

John.

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Date:Tue, 20 Sep 2005 06:50:28 +0100   Author:  

Re: Help - Laying Laminate Flooring without "beading"   
"Steve Harvey" said:


>    I am planning to lay a new laminate floor in my living room shortly. I 
> have just been told by SWMBO said she does not want to have any "edge 
> beading" which is used to hide the expansion gaps.


If you are looking for a rustic look, I've seen rope used to good effect 
(laid where the bead would be).
Best budget for annual replacement due to dirt collecting though.

Phil
Date:Tue, 20 Sep 2005 08:58:54 +0100   Author:  

Re: Help - Laying Laminate Flooring without "beading"   
"TheScullster"  wrote in message 
news:SJ2dnfyev8kmXbLeSa8jmw@karoo.co.uk...

>
> "Steve Harvey" said:
>
>>    I am planning to lay a new laminate floor in my living room shortly. I 
>> have just been told by SWMBO said she does not want to have any "edge 
>> beading" which is used to hide the expansion gaps.
>
> If you are looking for a rustic look, I've seen rope used to good effect 
> (laid where the bead would be).
> Best budget for annual replacement due to dirt collecting though.
>
> Phil



There's only one way to do it properly without beading and that is to remove 
the skirting board and refit. To make a neat job you always end up fitting 
new back. I do have a patent method for painting the skirting board 
afterwards if you are interested.The skirting will be higher but that covers 
the edge where you removed it (a good thing if you are not going to 
redecorate).

Bob Mannix
Date:Tue, 20 Sep 2005 09:07:05 +0100   Author:  

Re: Help - Laying Laminate Flooring without "beading"   
On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 09:07:05 +0100, "Bob Mannix"
 wrote:


>
>"TheScullster"  wrote in message 
>news:SJ2dnfyev8kmXbLeSa8jmw@karoo.co.uk...
>>
>> "Steve Harvey" said:
>>
>>>    I am planning to lay a new laminate floor in my living room shortly. I 
>>> have just been told by SWMBO said she does not want to have any "edge 
>>> beading" which is used to hide the expansion gaps.
>>
>> If you are looking for a rustic look, I've seen rope used to good effect 
>> (laid where the bead would be).
>> Best budget for annual replacement due to dirt collecting though.
>>
>> Phil
>
>
>There's only one way to do it properly without beading and that is to remove 
>the skirting board and refit. To make a neat job you always end up fitting 
>new back. I do have a patent method for painting the skirting board 
>afterwards if you are interested.The skirting will be higher but that covers 
>the edge where you removed it (a good thing if you are not going to 
>redecorate).
>
>Bob Mannix 
>


Removing the skirting can cause significant damage to the lower part
of the wall if it has been there a long time. I removed a section a
couple of days ago and there's no way I could refit it without a lot
of plaster or filler on bottom of the wall.

(Actually almost anything that is nailed on is hard to remove and
refit!)

Why was it that in the 50s, 60s and 70s they preferred such big
skirting?!

Mr F.
Date:Tue, 20 Sep 2005 10:06:05 +0100   Author:  

Re: Help - Laying Laminate Flooring without "beading"   
Mr Fizzion wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 09:07:05 +0100, "Bob Mannix"
>  wrote:
>
>>
>> "TheScullster"  wrote in message
>> news:SJ2dnfyev8kmXbLeSa8jmw@karoo.co.uk...
>>>
>>> "Steve Harvey" said:
>>>
>>>>    I am planning to lay a new laminate floor in my living room
>>>> shortly. I have just been told by SWMBO said she does not want to
>>>> have any "edge beading" which is used to hide the expansion gaps.
>>>
>>> If you are looking for a rustic look, I've seen rope used to good
>>> effect (laid where the bead would be).
>>> Best budget for annual replacement due to dirt collecting though.
>>>
>>> Phil
>>
>>
>> There's only one way to do it properly without beading and that is
>> to remove the skirting board and refit. To make a neat job you
>> always end up fitting new back. I do have a patent method for
>> painting the skirting board afterwards if you are interested.The
>> skirting will be higher but that covers the edge where you removed
>> it (a good thing if you are not going to redecorate).
>>
>> Bob Mannix
>>
>
> Removing the skirting can cause significant damage to the lower part
> of the wall if it has been there a long time. I removed a section a
> couple of days ago and there's no way I could refit it without a lot
> of plaster or filler on bottom of the wall.
>
> (Actually almost anything that is nailed on is hard to remove and
> refit!)
>
> Why was it that in the 50s, 60s and 70s they preferred such big
> skirting?!
>
> Mr F.


If I'm replacing skirting I try to find out where the nails are by using
nitro mors and then get an idea at what distance the nails are spaced, once
found I put my smallest scarat(hole cutter), in drill then drill the
section out surrounding the nail and remove skirting this way.

6", 8" taurus looks a damn site more elegant than the 4" plain  crap.
Date:Tue, 20 Sep 2005 09:12:25 GMT   Author:  

Re: Help - Laying Laminate Flooring without "beading"   
Steve Harvey wrote:

> Hi,
>     I am planning to lay a new laminate floor in my living room shortly. I
> have just been told by SWMBO said she does not want to have any "edge
> beading" which is used to hide the expansion gaps.
>
>   What are my options in laying the floor (with skirting boards already in
> place) which leave sufficient expansion gaps and also hide the edges of the
> floor. I presume that I would need to cut a rebate into the fitted skirting
> board... ??  If so what power tool would I need to hire ??
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
> steveharvey [at] dsl [dot] pipex [dot] com


What about a flat edging strip?

http://www.flooringsupplies.co.uk/accessory_detail.cfm?productID=51&type=&cat=
Date:20 Sep 2005 02:21:24 -0700   Author:  

Re: Help - Laying Laminate Flooring without "beading"   
"Simon"  wrote in message 
news:1127208083.966244.64740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...


> What about a flat edging strip?
>
> http://www.flooringsupplies.co.uk/accessory_detail.cfm?productID=51&type=&cat=


30mm wide? That's probably double the width of any beading you would need if 
the laminate is fitted properly.

RG
Date:Wed, 21 Sep 2005 11:10:34 +0100   Author:  

Re: Help - Laying Laminate Flooring without "beading"   
RG wrote:

> "Simon"  wrote in message
> news:1127208083.966244.64740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> > What about a flat edging strip?
> >
> > http://www.flooringsupplies.co.uk/accessory_detail.cfm?productID=51&type=&cat=
>
> 30mm wide? That's probably double the width of any beading you would need if
> the laminate is fitted properly.
>
> RG


I suppose it looks more like part of the floor than a tacked on bit of
beading...
Date:21 Sep 2005 04:59:10 -0700   Author: